He even has his own WIKI
Mr. John H. Gohde has so offended other people in newsgroups and on the internet that there is even a WIKI article about him
But luckily for the wikipedia community he hasn’t been involved since 2004.
Other usenet users on John Gohde of Naturalhealthperspectives.com
Y’know, I think I’ve now got the hang of this Gohde idiot.
Think it through. He’s born with physical and mental disabilities - not the
most serious ones that there are, but bad enough for him to feel utterly
unlovable and superfluous, especially since he doesn’t go on to achieve much
educationally. He gets into the second half of his life - by which time his
own laziness and stupidity have even cost him all his teeth. But rather than
accept the reality of even further physical and mental impairment in the
future, he goes into desperate denial. He’s not physically adequate - so he
desperately fantasises that he’s an expert on optimal health and can
therefore lecture perfectly healthy people about what they do to their
bodies. He’s not bright enough to make an original contribution to this
difficult field, and not diligent enough to learn the literature - so he
desperately pretends to be an authority by pasting together a website and
treating any person with *real* knowledge as if they are the sort of
pernicious idiot he secretly fears (and knows) himself to be. He can’t even
come to terms with the loss of his teeth - so he desperately pretends that
losing them was a smart and advantageous move. When he comes across anyone
here who has a serious medical problem or condition, he insults them -
firstly because they’re like him (and he hates himself), and secondly
because he doesn’t think that anyone who’s like him should have a better
time than he’s had (especially if they’ve ‘done it to themselves’ - since
that means they ‘deserve’ it, whereas he was an ‘innocent’ victim).
Now, none of this behaviour is remotely useful in any real sense, and
there’s nothing attractive or admirable about it. So his lifelong problem of
feeling superfluous and unlovable hasn’t gone away - in fact, it’s becoming
more painful with every passing day. So, since he isn’t going to be liked,
he decides that he can at least be hated. And that’s a kind of power, too -
since while someone who *likes* him could well decide one day that they
don’t like him any more, someone who *hates* him is probably gonna hate him
forever: hate is more dependable. So he becomes the most persistently
useless, insulting, uninformed, wrong-headed poster in the history of
sci.med.nutrition - a complete *tool*, despised by all and sundry. Someone
who can’t bring himself to killfile the people he hates, because he needs to
see that he still has the power to annoy them, to waste their time, to
attract their attention. Someone who continually creates new internet
accounts to post from, because he can’t bear the thought that people might
have killfiled him and so avoid seeing his latest antics. There are people
here who would be absolutely *delighted* to find that he’d died - which
means that every day his just turning up again feels to him like a complete
victory. In addition, in doing all this he gets to feel that he’s ‘paying
back’ the world for what it has ‘done’ to him by letting him be born
handicapped. What’s more, much of the above he has to be in total denial
about, since he has to pretend to himself that he’s someone special, and
this can only be done by fantasising that he’s actually possessed of unique,
unalloyed and unassailable insight that is of benefit to people.
So, a personality that could have adjusted and matured so as to be capable
of making a small but real contribution to the world has instead twisted
into an ignorant, intolerant, hostile, semi-delusional shit-head whose every
waking moment is spent devising or carrying out actions that are at best
worthless and at worst mess up things for other people.
- Anyone think I’ve missed anything out here?
Mark D.
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I want you to take a deep thought into this one. Not some quick, smart
assy answer, but a real soul searcher. Why do it again tomorrow? What’s
the point? Because you get some kind of thrill from pissing people off?
Doesn’t that seem deviant to a rational mind? Wouldn’t your time be
better spent doing anything else but annoying people? Perhaps even by
staying in bed for an extra hour. This is doubtless too much to hope for.
Keep doing it. Eventually everyone will kill file you and you can talk to
yourself. Begs the question, if a poster posts and no one reads it, does it
really have any content at all?
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Oh! You’re going to offer incorrect advice to people who haven’t learned
how unschooled and unlearned you are? Or does that merely mean that another
of your personalities has demanded dominance?
Or, perhaps you’ve simply learned that in a war of words and intellect, you
are unarmed and unmanned. This is where you normally resort to vulgarity
and obscenity as you don’t have the capacity to do any better. So feel free
to descend back to your normal third grade behavior level.
You’re incredibly boring, predictable, and poorly equipped for anything
academic or biomedical. You claim academic credentials you fail to
document.
But don’t worry, I’ll still hang around and remind folks how you lied to
blood donor centers and thus became iron deficient while practicing the “art
of good nutrition.”
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Gohde holds a grudge against the whole diet hierarchy because he was
netcopped to authorities and had to delete his former website offering
to diagnose and prescribe supplements, despite his lack of any medical
credentials whatsoever.
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It’s the thirteenth time I’ve had to kill-file John the ass-hole in the
month or so that I’ve had my new computer and started my kill-file over from
scratch! A constantly morphing addy is the surest sign of a troll!
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I went to your site. You might want to review the central premises
of the plans that you knock and the many studies they have to back
their stuff up. Even you are for a reduction of carbs in the forms of
sugar & grains. You are backwards on fat, but we’ll excuse you for
being behind the new tide of knowledge that is sweeping the world.
Everyone is on the Anti-Oxident bandwagon. B-complex vites have
been the rage for as long as I’ve been aware of a B-Complex.
What I fail to see is the revolution in your site. You are just spinning
common knowledge (some of it being revealed as wrong) to a new
tune, doubtless with a profit motive (I haven’t looked over all 17
poorly written regurgitations yet so I haven’t found the pitch yet, but
I can see where it’s going). While going through it, I found five things
that I thought were really sad and made me not want to write
anything nasty about you in spite of the fact that you are the worst
kind of “troll” in the worst kind of spot. If you need the why of that
explained, I’ll be happy to do it in private or over the four groups
you feel like talking to. Any rate, here are the Top Five reasons to
pity John the Child.
#5 - John is so about “demedicalizing” weight loss, yet he cites
doctor after doctor & medical study after medical study.
One might think a demedical kind of guy would go out, do
his own work, and show those doctors & their medical
studies what’s what.
#4 - John’s Disclaimer, which urges you to consult a physician
before working any portion of his, or any other plan. He also
refuses to take responsibility for your results.
#3 - John’s refusal to screen advertisers. John, if you are a man of
integrity (I think most know the answer to this already), you
would screen your sponsors, check over their sites, and make
sure you could endorse them before you take the first nickle
(Oh wait, it’s internet advertising… make that the first fraction of
a penny). Anything else would make you seem like a kind of
pimp for products of uncertain value. The fact that you have
no real sponsors only makes this more pitiable.
#2 - The Theme music. Christ that sucks.
and #1 - http://contact.naturalhealthperspective.com/aboutus.html
Particularly, the middle portion that discussed John’s
motive for putting up the site, and doubtless his motive
for trolling nutrition & diet newsgroups. Particularly
telling, “Remember this, I primarily did this site for me.
I don’t really care if you agree with me or not.” Add,
I don’t really care if the mass weight of modern science
says I’m talking out of my ass, and I think you have it all.
The general non-responsiveness of his posts really tell all you need
to know about this would be guru.
PS - While reading this & his site, this David Bowie song, “Law”
kept running through my head. I couldn’t think why, until I actually
played it, and within 2 seconds, I got it. The sampled quote, “I
don’t want knowledge, I want certainty.” Just sums JdC up perfectly,
at least in my mind.
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Your postings on this message board are doing nothing to establish
your credibility as a health expert or win you any business. I’m not
sure why you are so angry and abusive toward the people who provide
support to each other in this group, but no one here is interested in
what you have to say.
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I stand by my assertion that you really have no
expertise that anyone else could have by spending about thirty
dollars to buy a few books on weight loss & health care. Beyond
that, I still maintain that the study with which you started this thread
has such a small, tangential relationship to the actual topic, that
your expertise with scientific work is quite minimal. To point out
that a small sample size of women who are obese in one country
eats an extra meal & to draw from that that eating five or six meals
a day is not a way to lose weight is ridiculous. You consider a study
done in a vaccuum, and apply to the universe, not factoring in anything
relevant, like portion size, caloric count, carb gram count, fat gram
count. Based on your interpretation, you went off half-cocked, and
said extra meals make you fat. Everyone knows that an extra big
mac a day will hurt you. But you equated a five whopper day with
a portion controlled five meal day. Ridiculous. With that interpretation,
you lose cred with anyone with a fifth grade reading comprehension.
However, the fact remains that
your site has 0% reputable ORIGINAL content.
As far as mental illness goes, I ask this question, in earnest.
If someone were to post to newsgroups with the intent of
getting on people’s nerves & amuse yourself with confrontation,
how would you define this behavior? From your background in
psych, how would you classify this, as mental illness is closer to
your actual field of expertise than weightloss. Personally, I
would call it deviant and sociopathic, if that person were to
exist. If that person were to say, persist, posting multiple times
a day to call people names and further annoy them while being
near completely non-responsive to the real issues people bring
against his claim, I would describe it being beyond mildly
sociopathic. We are not talking “does not play well with others”
here.
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And you remain a toothless, boring, loathsome, vulgar, unlearned, poseur;
incapable of creating real research data as you chose to avoid real
educational endeavor. You are, however, capable of self-inducing an iron
deficient state by means of deceiving blood donor centers as to the date of
your last donation.
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See, challenge John about his site, and the lizard brain kicks in.
Fight or Flight, only in this case it’s Arse or Liar, and sometimes
(and frequently lately) both. I think he’s not really at the terminal.
He’s got a program reads every response to every post of his, and
it comes to the conclusion as to what to say. Call folks FatSos (
I dunno why the S is capital), Arses, Liars, idiots, mental patients,
whatever, and add some puntuation, be it an exclamation point or
an emoticon. Simultaneously, the program scans various news sites,
seeking correlation with his own website (which reads more like a
precis put together by a computer now that I think of it) which it
will share. Add a random tag generating macro, and you have
John ‘the Machine’ Gohde.
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This, my friends, is what’s known as a troll. Trolls are pathetic little
worms who live lonely, unfulfilled lives, & try to get their kicks by
attempting to provoke some faceless stranger on the internet. It gives them
a sense of power, and adds a little bit of light to their otherwise useless
existence.
John Gohde of Natural Health Perspective on himself:
“I am well educated and have graduated twice from college with honors.
1973 B.A., Bridgewater College, Bridgewater, Virginia;
1976 B.B.A, James Madision University, Harrisonburg, Virginia;
1980 - 83, Graduate Studies in Information Systems at Virginia Commonwealth University, Richmond, Virginia. “
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I happen to be a physically handicapped individual.
I have been documented to have physical brain damage and slight CP.
I have been documented to have a physically abnormal brain.
I have an obvious speech impediment, among other physical problems, due to
my physical brain damage.
The right corner of my mouth is also physically paralyzed.
My physical handicap has existed since birth. My brain is wired differently
from other people.
English as a result has always been my weakest subject. But, that did not
prevent me from succeeding academically in both French and German at
college.
Like many other people, I do have trouble in the language department due to
my physical handicap.
But, I have largely over come my language problems except for the occasional
A-Hole on these ngs.
It is always amazing to me how the supposedly so intelligent can be so
profoundly stupid! As long as I am still breathing, I will be posting and
expanding my website, grammar and spelling errors or no. 
I make no apologizes for being born screwed and having to constantly deal
with A-Holes like
you people.
I bet scum like you also go around kicking cripples too?”
“The provider of information on this Site has a BA degree in Psychology. “
“I will gladly, post my picture in 20 years when I am 75 still looking
like my present age of 55 with thick legs. :)” (May 30 2005)
I took a graduate class in database design and did some relational database programming in graduate school.
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